Still a newer player to CW. If you join more expensive parties, do you receive better charms from the meter and players? I do tend to stay with the less expensive parties. The charms are very low ranking and useless, so I feel like I’m wasting time/party passes/gems to do them. But also, I don’t want to join a real expensive party and not prosper from it. Just looking for some advice from more experienced players.
Welcome.
The general answer is yes the higher cost of a party, the better the charm and return in your investment from attending the party. I leaned on Vampire Bat parties for quite a while once I learned this. I also attend Unicorn and Nectar of Time parties with both costing a little more than Bats. These 3 mentioned charms do have a better payout than the inexpensive charms. Though it is costing you more Party Passes to join so you might have to wait longer to attend if you don’t have enough. Gems can also be used to attend a party if you do not have enough PP’s, but do not attend if it will cost you Gems. Save Gems to buy buildings for your city.
Also, I only go to Grab N Go parties. This only costs you the entrance fee of Party Passes, you do not have to throw charms unless you want to. If other players throw charms as gifts, you will get those.
That is my thoughts and I am sure other players will have some additional thoughts to share.
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Thank you for your input and your quick response. This does help a lot. I have been reading a lot on the unicorns, nectar of time and bats having decent payouts, so I’ll give the grab n go’s a try.
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@Safely_Sane It depends on the party they are attending. If it is a GnG (Grab and Go) then there is no requirement to toss a charm at all. If someone does, it is through their generosity. If it is a party buster, then it can go either way. A player may only have enough gems/passes to attend the party. Often times, the more experienced and well off players will toss charms to help the younger, less well off players and give them a hand in the game.
There are reasons as to why a user may not toss a charm. I would tell them to go to GnG parties so there is no animosity from other players, but often the GnG parties are more than they can handle in needed passes/gems to attend. Don’t stress too much is others don’t toss charms as they may not be able to. We all started out with very little in the beginning. The generosity of others often helps them get started. When they are capeable, then they too will toss charms regardless.
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It depends what resources you have available to you also.
I get many times more party passes than gems from my city and treasure boxes. If I have the passes needed to get into parties (which is what the game requires of me) then if a party has charms I want on offer I pay my dues, collect my charms, say thank-you and head out.
If I get lucky with gems then it’s different but I will still save the majority of them to build my city with
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@Safely_Sane I get where you’re coming from, but we have to look at this from the perspective of newer players (or those grinding for a year or less) who simply cannot afford to buy Gems.
For players with smaller cities, the math just doesn’t work out. When you rely on Treasure Boxes, you might get 10, 100, or maybe 250 Gems twice a day if you’re lucky. If you use those scarce Gems to toss Charms, you halt your own progress. Think about the ROI: To help someone get 100M coins (which isn’t much for Crown levels), you’d need to toss 25 Unicorns. A single Unicorn costs the tosser 950 Gems but only pays out ~4M Coins to the receiver. The benefit just isn’t there.
It’s far better to put those 950 Gems into a City Building. That building will pay out Coins, Charms, and Gems for the life of the account. It’s the difference between giving a man a fish (he eats it and ends up in the same spot) and giving him a fishing pole (he can go on indefinitely).
Asking everyone to toss is a tall order unless they can afford to spend $500 every other week. In my 4+ years here, I’ve sadly seen people blow their entire savings or Social Security checks just to keep up with Gem spending. Please remember, what we say here can affect others and might pressure them to spend money they cannot afford. Sometimes it literally comes down to choosing between putting food on the table and buying gems. For many especially retirees this site became a lifeline during COVID and remains their main social outlet. Demonizing them for not spending money they don’t have doesn’t help anyone.
I’ve tracked this with my own accounts. From what I can tell, a new account takes about 2 years to reach 450B (VIP for Life) - but only if you literally do not toss , reinvest all your gems into your city, and micromanage your treasure box 12+ hours a day. The game is a grind until you max out your city (23+ Level 4 monuments). Once you max out, the treasure box starts dropping 1,000 to 10,000 Gems . That is when the true potential unlocks.
For example, I have a 1.5-year-old helper account. It has rarely tossed a charm and is still only at 677B with 11 Level 4 monuments. Those 11 buildings cost 80k Gems each (880,000 Gems total). If I had tossed those gems at parties instead of building up my city , that account would be nowhere near that level today. The math is clear: until your city is maxed, tossing is a luxury most players simply can’t afford.
Regarding busting parties, while smaller parties are easy to bust (see Party Bust Tiers Explained & Dragonet Guide), the higher tiers are expensive. A Tier 7 Party Bust requires 105,000 Gems to complete. That averages out to 4,200 Gems per person ! That is a huge ask. In reality, usually 5 to 10 players contribute 75% of the bust while the rest simply cannot afford it.
Ultimately, players should look for parties that match their budget. If you love to toss, look for ‘Blitz’ or ‘Party Buster’ parties where tossing is required (check the party details). But be careful: I know many players who have treated tossing as mandatory since day one, yet after 4 years of playing, they still haven’t reached Crown Level 1 because they gave away all their growth. Many actually gave up due to the lack of progress. On the other hand, by saving and building, I have surpassed Crown Level 150 by more than double during that same 4 years.
Now, because I saved, I can afford to toss and bust smaller parties, bust Tier 7s parties occasionally, and maintain a healthy gem balance. I can participate in Yeti and Dragonet hunts and build every single chromatic monument. None of this would be possible if I hadn’t prioritized building over tossing for the last 4 years.
In short, expecting players to toss before they are ready is essentially expecting them to sacrifice their own progress.
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Like @Night_Guy said, it can take sometimes up to 2 Years to get to 450 Billion (VIP for life) for many players. I did it in ONE Year simply by saving my gems and putting everything back into my city. I toss at parties now and then, but my city is my main focus and investment. Its the reason I can advance in the game, and that is ultimately the whole purpose of being here. Some toss, some don’t, its all good in the end!
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Just a reminder that everyone who attends a party contributes resources, party passes or gems. If so-called freeloaders don’t show, then, in many instances, there would be no party.
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I actually enjoy the cheaper parties and find value in the charms and friends I collect there. Sometimes, generous gifters will drop crowns, yachts, or glambos. I generally bank four-stars then deploy as I get closer to the next milestone. Also note, many expensive parties are de facto GNGs.
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Welcome ShaknBooty. Hi Safely Sane.
Thank you Night Guy, Eddi Bets, NashRivers, Goose Rocks, PB, for your open-hearted responses and helpful teaching. All of you and countless others are the reason I go to and read this Casino World Help Forum. There’s always something to learn and, as in Jewel’s song, ‘In the end, only kindness matters’.
Mrs Lindie
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Agree with @Night_Guy 100%. It’s why we have different types of parties:
GnG - no one expects you to toss.
Challenge - toss if you want, no pressure.
Blitz - required toss cost to gain admission, no requirement beyond that.
If the description says “toss a chopper” for example, then guests should do that.
We should try to help the new people, not attack them for being poor.
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Thank you @Night_Guy you expressed my entire philosophy, I began playing this game approximately 660 days ago and i’m still in milestone 61, i don’t have the financial capacity to buy gems and i only pay for my vip status. I am also struggling to built my city because i like to contribute when going to parties, i don’t ecpect others to do as i do and i have never called someone a freeloader, because entering a party means spending pps, so freeloading is a wrong term to use. I don’t see cw as a racing game, where the one that finishes first gains a trophy or a money prize, and as i have said before, i come here to relax and have fun, so for me going to the parties and interacting with the friends i made and keep making is more beneficial to me than trying to achieve vip for life status as quickly as other players. But that’s just me. I congratulate those who do it.
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Ive been playing for 10 months and its a grind to get gems, ive had help from ppl but its hard to toss alot of gems at parties, i usually try and toss a champagne or chopper but thats all i can afford at this time. I also think someone not tossing doesnt mean they are cheap. And some ppl saved some gems to bust a party as NG says but they cant do that every party lol. Just me, but i never even think about what ppl toss at parties lol. Just be happy, collect your charms and have some fun.
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The willingness of players who have reached a level in the game that allows them to be generous with their gems or their knowledge enriches the community in Casino World.
I am very grateful to have been a beneficiary, I pay forward where I can and plan to join their ranks when I’m in a similar position
This is a fantasy world, with make believe money, if we choose to spend real money to enjoy it through our VIP membership it’s something we do (hopefully) within our means and no other player is entitled to expect any more than that. If that disappoints anyone, so be it
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@Safely_Sane I see your point about the cost, but I disagree regarding the ‘minimum’ charms. Mathematically, a 5-Gem toss returns negligible value. I would much rather a new player save those gems to build their city rather than waste them on a ‘performative’ toss that ultimately helps no one.
It sounds like you are simply outgrowing the parties you are attending. Try saving like 10K passes and go for a 5x or 10x unicorn party. Moving up the Party Tiers is the best filter for this. The lower tiers are naturally full of casual players and riff-raff who are just passing through. The higher tiers are where the dedicated players and the real friends are found.
If you want fair exchanges and a better crowd, stop worrying about the pennies in the lower tier parties and focus your efforts on the higher tiers instead.
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Am I going too far in saying that Party Busters simply are not worth it? Period? I’m a baby so I have no idea what the high level party rewards are like. But at the baby levels… sheeesh.
It costs 1,000 gems to bust the lowest tier party and the big gem prize was 10 gems (and that’s on Mega Gem Day, usually it’s 5). With 25 people in the party CW gave out 250 gems, some coin, and a few low level charms (just more coin), at a cost of 1,000 gems. Even if the 1,000 gems are paid evenly by the 25 people in the party, (40/per) That’s still a net loss of 30 gems. I mean, it’s just simple math. Sorry, but as has been previously stated in this thread. The juice is simply not worth the squeeze. Not even close honestly.
I hope the rewards get closer to the party cost as the tiers increase.
Party prizes seem to be a crapshoot. Usually not much incentive to bust higher tier parties. That said, partygoers scored 2,000 gems once at a 900-pass party. Weird that the mid-bust prizes are sometimes worth more than the bust prize.
I believe maybe you and I grew up in a different time. In the begining If I only had passes but no gems, I would just go to GNG partiess because I couldn’t give back. I still feel the same way today. If I need to save gems for gifting or building my city, I will use passes for GnG. But I suppose to each their own. If I pay to get into Party Buster, I will always give back regardless whether or not anyone else does. I try not to judge and choose to believe they have their reasons.
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@Safely_Sane , in a bit of defense of @Night_Guy , he has written often about decent conduct and seriously promotes kind and courteous interactions with other players. Because he is a long-time member of the CW community, he shares many tips about how to progress for those whose focus is on achieving their next milestone or maximizing their Treasure Box payouts.
I can understand how you would perceive his comments as being somewhat cold and analytical, but I assure you, he enjoys the social interactions with other player probably more than most. He just has so much experience here, that he chooses to share some of his practical experiences for those who are interested in, yes, returns and values.
There are many of us (despite some comments that may lead you to believe the contrary) who absolutely come here to lighten-up, chill, relax and play the games for FUN! And by the way, all of your recent thoughts and observations are appreciated!
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Not sure what your opinion of not too bad is? 12 months? 42 billion? just saying. I made 36 billion yesterday in mahjong. lighten up.
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